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nail beds white from shellac
11-13-2011, 02:27 PM
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Jess in WA :
> Try a solvent free Gel polish (100% gel) - you can easily tell which have solvent
> by smelling the bottle. There are only a few companies that offer this.

Jess I believe you and I are walking the same thought path here. A product that is solvent free, if no white spots appear, then that would lead to a single or combination of solvents reacting to cause the white spots

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11-13-2011, 02:52 PM
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I just want to make sure that there is a common understanding here and I was actually fairly accurate when I tried to say it was likely the product. I said maybe its shellac for a few reason, and I also said maybe its the acetone for obvious reasons of drying issues. So it cant really just be the pushing off causing the spots, ( even though it can cause damage ) the white we are talking about does have common links. Thanks ladies for helping me with that.
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11-13-2011, 03:43 PM
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I understand what you are saying Loraine. But do you also think that a person's chemical makeup has something to do with it also? If I missed that reference I apologize in advance.
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11-13-2011, 04:26 PM
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idonls :
> I understand what you are saying Loraine. But do you also think that a person's
> chemical makeup has something to do with it also? If I missed that reference
> I apologize in advance.

Oh I am liking this iPad!!!!!

Yes Cheryl, sure it can be a factor. Why does everyone not have allergic reactions to acrylic gel or whatever. Everyone has a different but similar chemical makeup, it would have to factor in, if indeed this is thrifty track.

I do not use any of the solvent brands. I have never seen these white spots. I would love to hear from others that are not using solvent brands. As a matter of fact I think I will send an email out to my customers @ manicuresthatlast.com and see what they say.

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11-13-2011, 04:29 PM
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I finally had to make myself use two thumbs on my phone. Way faster that way.......lol!!

Thank you for responding. I feel that it is an important factor in why some are getting white spots and some are not and it isn't just one product causing the issue.
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11-13-2011, 07:09 PM
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I use Shellac. Axxium, and Eco and have seen white spots with all 3 brands. It is not with all clients and usually it is the clients that admit that they did not bother to use cuticle oil.

I also have a regular polish client who always wears dark colors and gets dryness and white spots so bad that I make her take 2 months off from polish once a year. They go back to normal when we do this.
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11-13-2011, 08:53 PM
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MA Tech, the client you had eco with white spots, tell me did she ONLY use eco or did you alternate with other brands? Maybe eco base and/or top with other brand (solvent type) color?

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11-15-2011, 08:39 AM
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Yes, it was all eco product... I do not mix my product lines.
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11-15-2011, 01:46 PM
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Well then that may just shoot my theory in the proverbial butt.

Maybe a freak, maybe something else. Possibly she has a medical condition, maybe I am grasping at straws here!

I still have not sent that mass mail out to my customers, but I have it on my to-do list, I hope to get to it tonight or tomorrow.

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11-16-2011, 01:02 AM
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I am so glad this subject came up, because I have an elderly client who has bad white patches on her nails.
She had them before she started coming to me...which has been since the spring now....and they appear to be "in" the nail because they are growing out.
I too thought it was just a topical 'fungus' of some sort, because Ive come across that before. But she is old, and its not getting any better.

She was just getting manciures, and the patches would be there worse when I first started the mani, and removed her old polish.,.,,but at the end of the service-- they are barely noticealbe.
I do have pics on my phone... if someone wants to see them.
But I told her I was going to ask my Brilliant circle of Nail Techs'...from the board about it.... :wink:

Im pretty sure its just a reaction to either the acetone/remover and/or the chemicals in the polish itself.
However...I did start using the Shellac white on her, with regular polish and Shellac topcoat.....because I didnt want her entire nail exposed to the acetone when I had to remove it...this way, its really only the tips.
But it was really bad this last time. But again...when Im ready to reapply...its hardly noticeable.

I didnt put anything on her this last time..because I want to see how they look after a week and a half with no chemicals on them.

Any suggestions? Would this affect the natural nail in a bad way? I dont want to harm her..but if its just an esthetic problem...she and I can deal with that.

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11-16-2011, 09:18 AM
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Tracy, I have a client who has excessive white spots and lots of ridges. Like yours, her nails were that way when she came to me. I did notice that the white spots were more defined after soaking off in acetone, but subsided some after application of scrub, lotion, wax and cuticle oil. Last time she came in I removed Shellac with my e-file. This did seem to help reduced the amount of white spots.

Maybe this would be a good alternative for you with this partcular client of yours. Sounds like she has a tendancy to be on the dry side chemically so keeping her away from acetone might be helpful.
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07-22-2012, 05:53 PM
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I think it might have a lot to do with the client. How dry are they to begin with? How long have they been soaking the nails off in acetone? Is the proper soak time being used or are we trying to push off remaining gel too soon? Are they using oil, gloves, cleaning chemicals. I have witnessed the white on a few nails and only on 2 people. That's very little compared to how many I see in total.
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07-23-2012, 12:07 PM
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(10-30-2011 10:11 AM)Donna in Huntsville, TX. Wrote:  Just so everyone knows, I get this on my toes when I've worn polish for months. I don't file the surface, I don't soak them in acetone, and I'm not wearing a sog. That pretty much blows holes in the theory that sog's are causing this.

It's some type of fungal infection ON TOP of the toe nail, is what I've been told. I believe I read it on BT quite some time ago. It can be filed off, or you can let it grow off. In the case of toes, it's easy with fall/winter coming on to leave it alone, and go 'nekkid' on the toes. Not so easy on the fingers, tho. Most people don't want that showing on their nat. nails.
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06-17-2013, 10:04 AM
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(10-29-2011 09:52 PM)AllDolledUp Wrote:  If the cuticle oil can penetrate through Shellac by rubbing it on the nail with Shellac on it, wouldn't that cause the product to lift? Sounds a little strange to me.

It wont make the nail life. Shellac is designed with tiny little tunnels so the acetone can penetrate, unlike gel polishes that have to be bufffed first because their top coat isnt able to let the oil penetrate. The oil keeps the nail flexible. It does sound like a strange concept, but it reallly does make a wonderful difference if the client is persistent with their cuiticle oil! A quality oil that is .I "prescribe" Dadi" Oil by Famous Names and it just works wonders. It doesnt happen overnight, but if a clients' nails get bad enough, they may need the polish removed and have them rub oil in their nails 3 times a day., especially before bed so it has all night to do its magic!

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06-30-2013, 09:15 AM
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Hello- Interesting READ...I am still a new nail tech, and have a client I've been servicing since February. I have consistently used Gelish on her. Then we switched to Shellac (complete base color top)-- I saw her Saturday & she's worn Shellac for 2 services (4 Weeks now). Yesterday we soaked off in foil the Shellac & her nails were a MESS! White spots- Splits- cracks- under the Shellac- I FELT HORRIBLE!! And one nail was actually terribly thin!!!! I'm not aggressive with filing because I'm always afraid of hurting people * Even she said that! LOL- I'm wondering if she's had an allergic reaction to the brand **chemical make up**????
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06-30-2013, 11:56 AM
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I have had great luck with this challange by using Shellac remover by CND. It contains oils to help hydrate the nail.It does not effect the wear of the next Shellac mani

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07-05-2013, 02:53 AM
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Have anyone try to use non-acetone to remove the sog? I've been using it for more than 2 years, it does take a bit longer than pure acetone . But most of my clients do not have any white spot on their nails , either dryness on the skin.
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07-05-2013, 11:03 PM
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Like I said--NO WHITE SPOTS for months using Gelish- I switched her to SHELLAC & did 2 gel polish manicure services & her nails are a mess-- she's back in Gelish- I'm thinking she had some type of allergic reaction to the particular product SHELLAC?? !! ??
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