Gel Lamp cause skin cancer?
05-06-2010, 09:25 PM
Ok, so I have a client who is SURE that my gel lamp is going to give her skin cancer! I am trying to find information to explain to her that it is definitely not going to do that... and then this week on The Doctors, part of their program featured gel lamps, and apparently said that it did cause some sort of problems! I did not see the program, though. I was just told about it from clients. I would love any feedback!
05-06-2010, 09:48 PM
I had this same thing happen to me last week!!! Anyone know what I can tell my clients??? The term UV is freaking people out!
Young Nails Freak
05-06-2010, 10:05 PM
I am waiting for a reply right now from a LE professional that specializes in the technology of uv lamps. Hopefully he gets back to me soon with good news!
C-C My Nails
05-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Darn it O have something here on that very topics.. it's nto the first time these idiot Dr's talk out the wrong part of their anatomy..
but I know there was something else.. I will contact Doug Schoon and Paul Bryson.. C-C when Jim McConnel responds, please post it also.. then someone PLEASE remind me to stick this one..
05-06-2010, 10:49 PM
Jim and I had this conversation about a year ago. Here was his response:
Is UV light from a gel lamp safe for the skin and eyes?
A UV light used for curing fingernail products is 3 times the UV light concentration as natural sunlight in July at the 45th parallel (middle of Oregon) at noon. So, there is a difference, but it is slight if you compare the amount of exposure (time). If a client has her hand in the lamp for a total of 10 minutes during her service, this would be comparable to tanning in Salem, Oregon for 30 minutes in July. I have not measured the UV light intensity inside a tanning bed, but I would imagine that it is very intense and far exceeds the UV light concentration in a UV curing lamp. It is recommended to not look into the UV light as this is known to be damaging to the eyes, but skin exposure is fine for the majority of the population.
There is a second issue that we are dealt on the UV light issue. This is the claim that UV light from an artificial source is more likely to cause cancer. There are differing opinions on this, so I have to resort to a few known facts. A wavelength of light is the same whether it is generated from the sun or a UV bulb. Skin cancer is caused by over exposure to UV light at 320 nm (nanometers), then skin cancer will be caused by any light at that wavelength. UV bulbs can be made to create fairly specific wavelengths of UV light and as such, could be less carcinogenic than light from the sun. Physicians and scientists have not fully concluded which wavelengths of light actually cause cancer. Some claim that it is UVA, while others claim that it is UVB or UVC. It is my opinion that it really doesnât matter which wavelength as much as it matters of the total exposure time. This is the one thing that doctors and scientists do agree on â so if we just limit the amount of exposure time, then the UV light in the curing lamps is considered safe for nearly all of the population. A side note on UV light exposure causing cancer has now been thrown a new curve ball! A study conducted at Newcastle University has actually determined that UVA light exposure has shown signs of decreasing certain types of cancer because UVA light has the ability to increase T-cell production. T-cells are used to fight some cancers and as a result, the bodyâs own immune system can fight the cancer on its own! So, UVA light exposure may actually be beneficial to help fight cancer! (Science Daily, November 3, 2007)
05-06-2010, 11:26 PM
and i have tanned in the middle of july at noon in salem oregon and i can attest to its safety ive also had to wear a coat and rain jacket in the middle of july is salem oregon :?
05-07-2010, 12:43 AM
I had a client bring me in a magazine last week- marked- Allure I think with this same statement- thanks Jaime I was going to bring this up to Jim
05-07-2010, 01:29 AM
> and i have tanned in the middle of july at noon in salem oregon and i can attest
> to its safety ive also had to wear a coat and rain jacket in the middle
> of july is salem oregon :?
Is that about the same climate as Forks, Washington? I don't think the Cullens have too many issues with tanning. LOLZ!
Young Nails Mentor
05-07-2010, 10:25 AM
> Ok, so I have a client who is SURE that my gel lamp is going to give her skin
> cancer! I am trying to find information to explain to her that it is definitely
> not going to do that... and then this week on The Doctors, part of their program
> featured gel lamps, and apparently said that it did cause some sort of problems!
> I did not see the program, though. I was just told about it from clients.
> I would love any feedback!
Here is NSI's response to the UV light scare: http://www.nsinails.com/nail-lab/science...-risk.html
Director of Marketing & Communications
NSI - Advanced Products. Professionally Preferred.
05-07-2010, 10:51 AM
Here is the reply I just recieved from Jim:
No, the fear mongering will never end. These âdoctorsâ may have an âM.D.â behind their name but they are not much more than TV personalities with an education. They still need to sell their show, so they say things like âUV Gel lights can cause cancerâ. There is no evidence that UV gel lights contribute to cancer. Does walking to your car cause cancer? Well, yes â it just might, but it all depends upon so many other things such as additional time in the sun, diet, how much water you drink and most importantly â genetics!!! But, do the doctors stress how important genetics are in all of this?? NO! It frustrates me to no end.
Here is the stuff you can tell your clients:
The exposure time of your hands to UV light during the service will range from 10 minutes to maybe 15 minutes (one hand at a time). This exposure is experienced every two to three weeks.
The average teenager works, tans, plays in the sunshine for hours a day, (hopefully) 7 days a week, mostly during the summer months when the UV intensity is at its peak. The UV light intensity is the summer in WY is similar to the UV light intensity inside the curing light.
We could compare the UV light exposure for an entire year in the gel light as being comparable to 32 to 49 hours of UV light exposure to the hands (two hands combined). This would translate to about two weeks of play, 7 days a week, 2 hours each day. Are the doctors advising you to not go outside during summer time to get some exercise? Of course not, because it is healthy for you to get your exercise.
How about going outside to fish? Letâs take the effect of the waterâs reflective properties on the skin, nearly doubling the UV light exposure to a fisherman. Are they going to start advising people to stop fishing? I sure hope not. The last time I fished, I was on the water for 6 hours in Florida. That is similar to having my hands in the UV gel light for 10 hours continuously. What would the doctors say about that??? I could extrapolate this conversation to the point that the doctors on some TV show would want to completely shut down the Florida fishing industry and tourism trade.
I may choose to vent these opinions on our website and on my personal websites. It is about time we begin to fight back on these topics.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
C-C My Nails
05-09-2010, 10:35 AM
If this weren't so ridiculously sad, it would be funny.
People will regularly bake in UV tanning beds, go to the beach and picnic under the sun, but there now afraid of a UV nail lamp that put out the very little UV light? What is the world coming to? When I was a teenager I had a black light poster in my room to light up my glow-in-the-dark Jimi Hendrix poster. That single bulb exposed me to more UV light in a week than clients are exposed to in a year.
Here are the facts, fluorescent lights office lights put out a tiny amount of UV light. Between UV nail related salon services, your clients will be exposed to more UV light from fluorescent bulbs in an office setting than during the salon service. If they go outdoors at all during the day, their UV exposure skyrockets. UV nail lamps are not significant source of UV exposure. To date, I've not seen any scientific evidence to the contrary and there is no credible scientific information that suggests these lamps are anything but safe.
Please e-mail or text to anyone disseminating this kind of misinformation and have them contact me to get the truth. This isn't the first time that "The Doctors" have gotten it wrong. I sent them e-mails before asking them to check information related to nails and nail salons with me ahead of time, but I've never gotten a response. You'd think they'd want to speak to people with expertise, apparently not.
Perhaps if all of you were to bombard them with e-mails, maybe they'll wake up and start talking to people who have credible information. Unfortunately, fear-based marketing is everywhere, especially on TV. The best way to get someone to watch a TV show is to tell them things that are frightening and scary. It doesn't much matter if you're exaggerating the truth, just so you get the ratings up. That's the world we live in today.
Chief Scientific Adviser
Creative Nail Design, Inc.
05-09-2010, 10:40 AM
Please make this a sticky thread
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05-09-2010, 08:47 PM
Miss V :
> Please make this a sticky thread
05-09-2010, 11:06 PM
Doug, we sent tons of e-mails to the Dr. Oz show in reference to his show aobut nails. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I have gotten no response to my e-mail or to their incorrect information. I'm not surprised. As you said it is a fear based show.
Since then, I have told all my client's about that particular show. Hopefully they will do what I do and that is "Not watch his show anymore".
It is too bad that they don't get the information correct or seek the right expert to give out the right information.
06-22-2010, 02:37 AM
I think u should consult with any specialist as it would be much better for right perception.
Beach Place Card Holder
06-22-2010, 08:17 AM
I have noticed at our local NSS that they have long tables with several chairs lined up along the table. It looks hand made, out of wood, and has UV lamps in the above part and an open area where people can place their hands. Since these are not industry made and standard UV light equipment, it makes me wonder what type of UV light bulb they are using. Ttanning bed lights? And how does the customer know how long to leave their hands under the light?
I have made note of this on my FB page and are advising the public to be warey of these type of lights and what type of light to look for that will be safe and is industry standard.
07-17-2010, 09:12 AM
One time I went to a nss shop with a friend to get her nails airbrushed and they had the same set up with the uv light to dry nails. I looked under it at the bulb and it had marked right on the bulb Blacklight. Is that different from uv? Why would they use a blacklight instead of a uv light?
Angie from Mo.
07-17-2010, 09:15 AM
I was wondering what they are using. Since I won't step foot in one of those places, I wasn't sure what light they were using that had such a purple tint to it.
07-17-2010, 10:12 AM
> One time I went to a nss shop with a friend to get her nails airbrushed and
> they had the same set up with the uv light to dry nails. I looked under it
> at the bulb and it had marked right on the bulb Blacklight. Is that different
> from uv? Why would they use a blacklight instead of a uv light?
because often they use air/heat dry topcoat and charge for UV topcoat.. the black lite makes the top glow just as a reg UV lamp would
11-19-2010, 12:35 AM
âDo UV Nail Lamps Emit Unsafe Levels of Ultraviolet Light?â
A recent report incorrectly concluded that UV nail lamps are a source of "high-dose UV-A" and also inaccurately compared UV tanning beds with UV nail lamps.
Worked with two of the leading scientists in the professional nail industry, we verify the facts, by using an independent laboratory to test the leading UV nail lamps to determine how much UV-A and UV-B they emit and then compared that to natural sunlight. Our attached report shows that UV nail lamps emit relatively low levels of UV light and these exposure levels are considered well within safe levels when they are used to perform UV artificial nail services in nail salons
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