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Commission Question
#1
Hello,

My question isn't about nails but I think it falls into the same realm. ( Ido nails and waxing).
I was offered a 50/50 split on commission for waxing service but the owner wants to split the product cost 60 (her)/ 40 (me). Is that a good deal on the product cost?
I get how commission works for nails but is it the same for every beauty service? On waxing you make more on service and tips than on nails but the product cost is higher i think too.
Hmmmm...
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#2
I haven't heard of that? Who actually purchases? Do you have a say in where products are from? What brand? What if you leave - do you take anything with you?
Around here the salon usually provides, unless there's something you prefer to bring in (at your cost).....???
Interested to see other posts!
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#3
Hey Tee!

Don't think that would work out in the end. Either she provides product or she gives you a higher commission and you do. It would be awkward when you leave. Are there other people in the salon who would or could potentially use your product?
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Shirley
Scotch Tape & Rhinestones
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#4
(05-28-2014, 12:33 PM)scotchtapeandrhinestones Wrote: Hey Tee!

Don't think that would work out in the end. Either she provides product or she gives you a higher commission and you do. It would be awkward when you leave. Are there other people in the salon who would or could potentially use your product?


No she provides a different service. I'd be the only one waxing. She's has a large clientele and will be marketing them to me.
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#5
Read this about commission: http://www.thisuglybeautybusiness.com/20...le-of.html
Jaime Schrabeck, Ph.D. (yes, it's real)
http://www.precisionnails.com
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#6
(05-29-2014, 12:39 AM)PrecisionNails Wrote: Read this about commission: http://www.thisuglybeautybusiness.com/20...le-of.html


I read the article and thank you. We haven't figured out all of the details yet but we are going to figure it out to be more of a partnership. I suggested to her to add me and she'd be making money she wasn't going to be making anyway. Her overhead won't go up or anything. I guess I'm also looking at the fact that its a more upscale environment so I'll be making about %50 more than I currently make doing the same job (which is hr+com+tips). My current job avg. $35p/hr. With the new place (comm) I'd prob avg. about $125 p/hr.
I know I don't pay any product cost right now and thats what we need to sort out.
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#7
Wow - I'm making next to nothing :-(
Good for you!
I'm 1 year doing nails - still struggling to find a good salon.
I've tried an "foreign" owned/operated for 4 weeks & had to leave do yo their "practices" let's say - I spent 7 months trying to build in a full service salon & it was dead -- in a desperate need to get out of the "foreign" salon - I went BACK to former Job -- she "coaxed" me saying ppl were coming in more with nicer weather - and then decided to put me at commission only, NO hourly- in a hurried decision I went back- BAD MOVE-- its NO BETTER then when I left.....
Now I make even LESS......
I'M disgusted with everything now :-(
I'm depressed with my career & at a loss with what to do!
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#8
(05-30-2014, 07:39 AM)[email protected] Wrote: Wow - I'm making next to nothing :-(
Good for you!
I'm 1 year doing nails - still struggling to find a good salon.
I've tried an "foreign" owned/operated for 4 weeks & had to leave do yo their "practices" let's say - I spent 7 months trying to build in a full service salon & it was dead -- in a desperate need to get out of the "foreign" salon - I went BACK to former Job -- she "coaxed" me saying ppl were coming in more with nicer weather - and then decided to put me at commission only, NO hourly- in a hurried decision I went back- BAD MOVE-- its NO BETTER then when I left.....
Now I make even LESS......
I'M disgusted with everything now :-(
I'm depressed with my career & at a loss with what to do!


I"m sorry Celeste, i know you've been trying really hard. I've never quite known too much how to move forward with nails. I freelance at a spa. They're not very busy though. Waxing is my steady money and tips can be larger. How about trying at spas?Some spas do pretty well with nails. My friend works at RedDoor and she does well.

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#9
Lol I've seen ads for European Wax & I've considered switching to waxing- I'm so frustrated :-(
I am not trying to put myself down - I don't feel like I'm "spa" material-- if that makes any sense ??? I like a shop with fun people who talk & are average -- I get nervous my skills aren't good enough for a spa that I wouldn't be skilled enough for that clientele- I'm slower then the Asian techs - but cleaner - I'm not as skilled as them either-- and that scares me & a Spa seems out of my league as well-- I know finding a "fit" can be challenging-- I just get sick if looking for it.

And each job I've had I don't wax because someone else does...but I hear that's easy $ for the time!

Thanks :-)
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#10
(05-30-2014, 08:35 PM)[email protected] Wrote: Lol I've seen ads for European Wax & I've considered switching to waxing- I'm so frustrated :-(
I am not trying to put myself down - I don't feel like I'm "spa" material-- if that makes any sense ??? I like a shop with fun people who talk & are average -- I get nervous my skills aren't good enough for a spa that I wouldn't be skilled enough for that clientele- I'm slower then the Asian techs - but cleaner - I'm not as skilled as them either-- and that scares me & a Spa seems out of my league as well-- I know finding a "fit" can be challenging-- I just get sick if looking for it.

And each job I've had I don't wax because someone else does...but I hear that's easy $ for the time!

Thanks :-)


It is great money if you're busy. EWC is a great place to learn and become highly skilled.
I thought most spas only offer natural nail services, why wouldn't you be "good enough" for that? I only do natural nails. The clients aren't what you think...believe me...
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#11
I suppose I'm pre-judging "spa" atmosphere.... and I'm over critical of myself I'm sure!!
I'll look into all options.....
EWC - is always hiring it seems - I've heard good & bad with this - since its franchise- waxing is a mystery to me as I don't even get waxed myself LOL.
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#12
A job I was offered - $6.00 hour salary, when I double my salary I can get 30%.

I need this in English- Lol?

I would be working 25 hours
I would need to make $300 in services- then anything over $300 I would get 30% of?
Say my services were $400 - I would get 30% out of the $100
- correct?
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#13
(06-26-2014, 07:02 PM)[email protected] Wrote: A job I was offered - $6.00 hour salary, when I double my salary I can get 30%.

I need this in English- Lol?

I would be working 25 hours
I would need to make $300 in services- then anything over $300 I would get 30% of?
Say my services were $400 - I would get 30% out of the $100
- correct?


WhAt? lol
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#14
I know I found its actually LESS on her alternate plan + I'm out of there!!! This us crazy!

I have several Nail Tech position offers for a job.

I have narrowed this down to two offers & can not seem to decide!
I'm in a heavily populated state (NJ) with salons up the wazoo seriously, and I'm basically nearby the coast in Ocean county.
Offer #1 is 14 miles west inland (Jackson NJ)- near retirement communities & populated suburb. Full service, 1 ft manicurist, 1 pt manicurist, they tell me they turn ppl away for nails all the time, everyone nice, salon is busy, only one girl does acrylic & hard gel, room for another person to build, 50% commission, will work with my part time hours, prices mini Mani $10 spa Mani $15 deluxe spa Mani $20, gel polish $27, full set $45+, mini pedi $20, spa pedi $40.
Offer#2 is 12 miles north (Manasquan NJ) but still close to coastline, higher end suburb/client, 6 manicurist all pt, salon is busy, I know a current employee who wks 30 hours for past year ($550 a WK + tips 20%+), salon PD trainings in past, I would only be doing mani, pedi, gel mani- only owner & fully LCN trained girl does enhancement, prices - mani $23, mini mani $18, shellac mani $40, gelcolor opi $45, lcn resolution color $49, mini pedi $35, reg pedi $50 and prices go UP- much higher end salon, salon pay to start is $8 per hour or 40% (which ever is higher) then 40% straight commission, possible medical at a cost, will work with pt hours, very nice people there too.

Obviously two different salons in all aspects.

I feel like all the jobs I've taken have been duds to some extent - of course learning & growing from each - I'm only a licensed manicurist for 1 year and really want to just make a good choice to establish myself long term!

Concerns-- Offer #1 prices low (I suppose compared) - is it really that busy - other then that ???
Offer 2 - closer to shore area will be slower in fall (friend said yes but she's been there a little over a year & fine), is this salon too high end for "me"? Am I not good enough for these prices? Coming from the salon I've been in - the prices are intimidating I suppose. Also I want to do enhancement- I'm pretty good & getting better - just slower- a bit bummed I wouldn't be doing them until owner has me fully trained to her liking- could be a good thing I suppose- ?

Any advise? Suggestions? Words of wisdom?

Thank u!
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#15
Take offer #2
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#16
Thank u - as always - much appreciate the time you take on here!
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#17
(05-28-2014, 12:20 AM)Tashawna Wrote: Hello,

My question isn't about nails but I think it falls into the same realm. ( Ido nails and waxing).
I was offered a 50/50 split on commission for waxing service but the owner wants to split the product cost 60 (her)/ 40 (me). Is that a good deal on the product cost?
I get how commission works for nails but is it the same for every beauty service? On waxing you make more on service and tips than on nails but the product cost is higher i think too.
Hmmmm...


HI, I would think it should be 60/40 you 60%
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#18
That's the point . . . commission does not work: http://www.thisuglybeautybusiness.com/20...le-of.html
Jaime Schrabeck, Ph.D. (yes, it's real)
http://www.precisionnails.com
http://shop.precisionnails.com
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